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發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:23 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
Hi! First thread on Jr.Vip - heh, to be honest this post is actually one of the reasons I signed up.
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I've got more than a couple of questions throughout the text, so I- Q, [7 z3 M& ^, y- A* m5 {$ C
thought it would make it easier to follow if I underlined the2 Q, D) s! L  |+ r/ M
questions/things I'm doubting on.
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Ok, the thing is - I'm planning on doing free-signup dating offers on CPA networks.
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* a$ L0 G( x, E, rI would drive the traffic to the offer mostly from CL. (dating)
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2 I2 ~9 i: k; Z0 q) yNow at first I was paranoid, because I read a couple of threads about
2 W  y6 N- |$ q/ }% X$ bguys complaining that they were doing free-signups, but because none of
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$ q( J9 U6 w* f(I'm not actually sure if they were on CPA- or adult networks. Is there a difference in these two when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?)
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Well anyhow, I did some research on the subject. And basically the advice I got was:
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1. You can always blame the offer, it's not your fault it doesn't convert.! k) [- ~$ l/ _& O8 M6 ~. ?

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3. What do they expect? 99% of people take something free and leave anyways.5 P- e: a% N* n% i% ~* c
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! k7 R8 s5 L4 O# ~4 W& U& ^4 YI think these are some pretty legit reasons, although do they matter anything in the eyes of a network/advertiser?2 `7 ~: |2 n8 ?" |; {- b  v1 b

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I was also suggested to keep the amount of money made under $1500 per month per network.6 o; o& C5 @# @8 W2 R
(just to keep it under the radar) That would mean $50 per day, which is
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definitely keep in mind is not sticking on one offer - I'l rotate them9 T# Q: E$ l% _+ u& \
or atleast use one offer for..let's say - a week and then pick another# Q1 u! Y( J: u4 v
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8 B/ w* p  n1 t6 S6 a4 O+ ~( aMy #1 question right now is whether I should use the scheme:
" H# |# k1 R5 s% fCL->email->BH site->WH site->offer. (I'd use some script /
( L: N, ^: v! ^8 \$ uif possible - "Referer Guardian" for redirecting) Some people
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it would be pretty logical as a coverup - if anyone asks I'm doing doing
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would be like 26k hits) What I would actually do is just send some fake
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6 z, n: p. g3 v2 F% ~0 o: l- L& y) ENow on the other hand there are people who tell me something like "oh7 E3 w& _0 s& W8 y
why bother, it's too much of a hassle - just give them a direct link to
+ c4 b9 S3 ]3 v: j- k( Ythe offer when your emailing them" Well, I guess I wouldn't even have to* {. R. \& Z! ~
cloak/blank anything then? I mean, if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right?
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Although a pretty bad setback with e-mailing is that a lot of dating
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Hm, now I know there isn't a 100% answer, but overall which road should I take? When I'd choose the second one, wouldn't it be too suspicious? What would I have to tell the AM - that I'm using a opt-in mail list?+ O  N! H! U7 t% v1 E( i

5 e. w0 {, H% i+ j: S, ?Would I also have to send some fake traffic to the offer? {I mean a 15(sales):20(visitors) ratio wouldn't seem legit, would it?}
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But with the first road, I'm puzzled with what should the sites actually. E0 I) e/ k- N
look like? I mean, I've seen a "secure dating" BH site, but their for! w% X3 x, p5 t0 w" r
CC offers. What would a BH site for a free-signup look like? And the WH site? (a review site perhaps?) I would really appreciate if someone would give me some examples!. i4 [! Y- L* s9 L0 H6 C7 a. l5 {

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Heh, well - that's pretty much all..for now
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$ I6 p9 _& C( M) H9 {4 l) [Thanks in forward!
 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:35 | 顯示全部樓層
Been real busy lately with uni. so haven't had a lot of time on my hands. But none the less I've gotten some answers + actually when I re-read my post, I must say - I asked a lot of shit which I could have tested out myself.
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5 q5 Z% ]9 r) y+ A. BAnyways, to the "Is there a difference in CPA networks and adult networks, when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?" question I pretty much found my answer from sf's post, where he wrote:; Z% I+ Y3 R3 A' L, `) u# G! z
So there IS a difference. But I'm sure however that even with the CPA networks the advertisers aren't that happy if your sending them totally untargeted and non-converting traffic. I mean, they definitely have some "equal/greater than" ratio that must be fulfilled, right?8 x4 o7 J" B7 z/ u3 x6 Y
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Now, I talked to my AM on one of the networks. And he said that until I'm doing dating offers I can spam a (targeted) opt-in mail list. But CL is a no-no. So in a way this is good news, cause I don't have to worry about the WH site now. (to cover up my traffic so I could seem legit) I'l just now send my traffic directly to the offer through mail. No questions asked, right?
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6 M+ N3 i+ C5 T8 D( WI guess I still should cloak the offer though. And yea, I also know now the answer to "if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right? " For those who might not know, it's not! The referer shows up as hotmail/gmail etc. Incase they click on it from a client like outlook - it shows as a direct hit!1 W' |/ l6 h, b- R

& i$ H0 k2 w& ^4 ~1 _4 p) {Anyways.. I wouldn't want to make this post a monologue. So if you've got any useful tips / advice / etc. please do post!
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:44 | 顯示全部樓層
Thanks for posting this Sam although its a shame none of the experienced guys on here have replied to the post. If you have had private replies perhaps you can share them so we can all benefit.
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:57 | 顯示全部樓層
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, @4 Z8 p6 r) J! Y5 P0 }# d, H1 a* jYea I'm in the same boat. I want easy signups that convert and look legit$ C+ x, a  e, ]9 s) y
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