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發表於 2011-8-6 01:32:23 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
Sam;91256 Wrote:Hi! First thread on Jr.Vip - heh, to be honest this post is actually one of the reasons I signed up.   L2 J/ i  M! c! @* k- H
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I've got more than a couple of questions throughout the text, so I
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questions/things I'm doubting on.
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Ok, the thing is - I'm planning on doing free-signup dating offers on CPA networks. 2 C' P6 {: X+ `' F3 p3 ~9 i
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I would drive the traffic to the offer mostly from CL. (dating)
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Now at first I was paranoid, because I read a couple of threads about 8 u$ q; L- D6 E5 m* y$ o" L
guys complaining that they were doing free-signups, but because none of 0 i- w+ u* b0 u) u  ]
the leads converted into paying ones they got transferred/not payed etc.
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(I'm not actually sure if they were on CPA- or adult networks. Is there a difference in these two when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?)
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8 r2 j, N+ U) f; z* NWell anyhow, I did some research on the subject. And basically the advice I got was:
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" u( [: w4 f5 u% y0 Z7 _; ~' N1. You can always blame the offer, it's not your fault it doesn't convert.% w9 C2 K1 }: \6 m, E

1 l: [: \6 J5 v5 ]+ m* I# }2. Atleast your creating a list for them, which they can try to monetize later on (emails, zip codes, addresses etc.), [& G& {5 C8 k% o1 ^* A! ?# R2 j

  }/ y" H  g& k7 X' ^3 c3. What do they expect? 99% of people take something free and leave anyways.
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I think these are some pretty legit reasons, although do they matter anything in the eyes of a network/advertiser?
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I was also suggested to keep the amount of money made under $1500 per month per network.) G' S* g5 I, f7 {3 E1 j
(just to keep it under the radar) That would mean $50 per day, which is
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definitely keep in mind is not sticking on one offer - I'l rotate them
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My #1 question right now is whether I should use the scheme:
; D$ F  }9 Y+ v7 W% P0 k; rCL->email->BH site->WH site->offer. (I'd use some script / * V% n' M% D* K" F# x4 j
if possible - "Referer Guardian" for redirecting) Some people
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0 i$ `0 E6 ^/ x. b) wit would be pretty logical as a coverup - if anyone asks I'm doing doing
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would be like 26k hits) What I would actually do is just send some fake
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Now on the other hand there are people who tell me something like "oh 8 L1 `) p/ ?; i: u. m
why bother, it's too much of a hassle - just give them a direct link to 5 p# r0 l2 \7 R: ?% Y" {3 d1 Y* _
the offer when your emailing them" Well, I guess I wouldn't even have to1 ]" z8 v" u3 V% B& x- L: G; O7 O
cloak/blank anything then? I mean, if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right?
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Although a pretty bad setback with e-mailing is that a lot of dating : `% k; J3 _/ w6 c" t& x
offers don't allow e-mail traffic at all. With redirecting them through
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Hm, now I know there isn't a 100% answer, but overall which road should I take? When I'd choose the second one, wouldn't it be too suspicious? What would I have to tell the AM - that I'm using a opt-in mail list? 4 C: g$ r! Z: K# r/ P2 Z
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Would I also have to send some fake traffic to the offer? {I mean a 15(sales):20(visitors) ratio wouldn't seem legit, would it?}6 B4 \2 J' K1 \' [, c

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But with the first road, I'm puzzled with what should the sites actually
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CC offers. What would a BH site for a free-signup look like? And the WH site? (a review site perhaps?) I would really appreciate if someone would give me some examples!; Z2 M# n, v2 ^: o% Y  t4 u& J. h" F6 j
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Heh, well - that's pretty much all..for now   - w6 `; k. c) M% J7 Q5 ~# [

; |) X0 c5 s/ WThanks in forward!
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-8-6 01:32:41 | 顯示全部樓層
Sam;92740 Wrote:Been real busy lately with uni. so haven't had a lot of time on my hands. But none the less I've gotten some answers + actually when I re-read my post, I must say - I asked a lot of shit which I could have tested out myself.
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6 C/ x5 M6 o0 }Anyways, to the "Is there a difference in CPA networks and adult networks, when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?" question I pretty much found my answer from sf's post, where he wrote:! w, Z! u- }9 h7 ~# x: n- _$ O
So there IS a difference. But I'm sure however that even with the CPA networks the advertisers aren't that happy if your sending them totally untargeted and non-converting traffic. I mean, they definitely have some "equal/greater than" ratio that must be fulfilled, right?
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: A5 R  i/ d2 \" X& H2 B4 ONow, I talked to my AM on one of the networks. And he said that until I'm doing dating offers I can spam a (targeted) opt-in mail list. But CL is a no-no. So in a way this is good news, cause I don't have to worry about the WH site now. (to cover up my traffic so I could seem legit) I'l just now send my traffic directly to the offer through mail. No questions asked, right?/ _% L( [; L/ h! D
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I guess I still should cloak the offer though. And yea, I also know now the answer to "if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right? " For those who might not know, it's not! The referer shows up as hotmail/gmail etc. Incase they click on it from a client like outlook - it shows as a direct hit!
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Anyways.. I wouldn't want to make this post a monologue. So if you've got any useful tips / advice / etc. please do post!
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